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Showing posts with label natural born citizens. Show all posts
Showing posts with label natural born citizens. Show all posts

Friday, August 3, 2012

re: "The Rebirth of Birthers?"

William Sullivan at American Thinker (" a daily internet publication devoted to the thoughtful exploration of issues of importance to Americans ") considered this news from Arizona.

Money quote(s):

"Two years, three months, and seven days after his inauguration, Barack Obama finally offered evidence to prove his eligibility for the presidency. On the White House website, officials posted an electronic document purported to be a scan of Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate. It was a grand "I told you so" moment for the media and the left, which had worked feverishly to marginalize "birthers" as the radical counterpart of the zany "truther."

Of course, there was never really any parity. Truthers constructed silly conspiracy theories about George W. Bush being an international super-criminal that orchestrated impossibly complex measures to frame al-Qaeda on 9/11. Birthers, on the other hand, merely demanded that the president, who is required by the Constitution to be a natural born American citizen, show proof of his eligibility. And in reality, that is an entirely reasonable expectation, albeit unprecedented." (Bold typeface added for emphasis. - CAA.)

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"Sherriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona, at the behest of a petition presented by the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party organization, organized a "cold case posse" and completed a six-month examination of the released birth certificate in order to determine its authenticity. The results are in, Joe says, and they point to the document being a fake."

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"Lord Christopher Monckton, who has experience investigating high-level fraud as a policy adviser under Margaret Thatcher, has given the claim added veracity.

According to World Net Daily, Monckton said that "it appears that the document was cobbled together in layers, pointing to evidence that three date stamps and a registrar's stamp were superimposed on it from another document." If there were a single, original document to verify the president's Hawaiian birth, why "go to all that trouble, he reasoned."

Monckton's conclusion? "My assessment is that they are right to be worried... That document is not genuine." "

CAA's expertise, however limited, in estimating the genuine-ness of vital documents such as birth certificates and travel documents (i.e., passports and visas) does not extend to digital photographs of said documents.

"Anyone calling Obama's birth certificate into question will have to entertain the notion that perhaps the forgery was made because the president does not have legal proof of his American birth. And anyone carrying that message will have the stink of "right-wing birther" on him, and he will be swiftly devoured by the attack dogs in the media and marginalized. So in a way, I don't blame conservative lawmakers and pundits for treading lightly around the issue."

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"Reasonably, it should never have been incumbent upon Americans to prove that Obama is not a natural born citizen, but rather it should have always been incumbent upon Obama to prove to the American people, verifiably and indisputably, that he was born in the United States."

Anyone with actual proof of someone having committed passport or citizenship fraud should get in touch with the Bureau of Diplomatic Security's Criminal Investigative Division.



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Monday, May 3, 2010

re: "Obama to lock up Army doctor rather than produce birth certificate"

Chris Carter at Unto The Breach ("Covering matters of American liberty and security.") had an update on LTC Lakin's court martial.

Money quote(s):

"I know that if Obama is found to be a usurper, the country will likely experience unrest. I also know that we would be left with Nancy Pelosi as VP and Joe Biden as President, which in itself is almost enough to deter any steps to restore a legitimate government. But the fact remains that the Constitution says that our president must be “natural born.” And when the president is willing to throw a decorated Lieutenant Colonel into prison rather than produce his birth certificate, that path is the darker of the two."

Personally, I very much doubt Pres. Obama will ever be proven not to have been born in Hawaii. And much of the blog-noise about Indonesian step-fathers, losing his citizenship, &tc., is ignorant jaw-jawing about irrelevancies.

And as for the president being "willing" about anything in this case pre-supposes the notion that it's even on his radar screen. He's in office and he's got bigger fish to fry.

Monday, August 31, 2009

re: "On the nirthers and the press"

Neo-Neocon ("to tell the tale of my political change and provide a forum for others") continued to exhibit exquisite good common sense.

Money quote(s):

"I consider it a non-issue at this point, except as it’s being used to discredit perceptions of Republicans and people on the Right as crazies.

I also believe–along with several commenters on
this thread, that the consequences of a finding that he’s not a natural born citizen would be chaotic, and his replacement would hardly be better than he is. "

"I believe that it is highly likely that Obama was born in Hawaii, just as he’s claimed. That said, I also think it is very odd that he has refused so far to release the long form of his birth certificate (if those who say that Obama and only Obama could obtain a copy from the state of Hawaii, and that the long form is different from and more complete than the certificate of live birth that he has already offered of us, are correct)."

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"This has nothing to do with whether Obama was born in Hawaii, as I’ve noted. It has everything to do with transparency, however. And it has everything to do with the failure of the press to do its job."

Saturday, March 14, 2009

re: "Nirther FAIL: Judge Spanks "Obama is Not a Citizen" Conspiracy Theorists ... Hard"

Rusty at The Jawa Report ("these guys don't really like us but don't mind making a buck selling us an R2 unit or oil or whatever") is demonstrating a sane and mature attitude.

Money quote(s):

"(T)o conspiracy theorists no amount of evidence is enough."

"What you are doing is starting with the premise that Obama was not born in Hawaii, and is therefore not qualified to be President under the "natural born citizen" clause of Article II. (Also see Amendment XIV which clearly states, "All persons born ... in the United States ... are citizens of the United States." This has ALWAYS been interpreted as "natural born citizen"). Yet, all evidence that doesn't meet your standards is rejected as part of a conspiracy to cover up the truth (TRUTH!).

Most sane people start with the premise that Obama was born exactly where he said he was born. If you have some evidence to the contrary, show it to me. "

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"Since you don't have any real evidence that Obama was not born in the place he says he was, please shut up and stop embarrassing yourselves."