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Showing posts with label Gen Ray Odierno. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Gen Ray Odierno. Show all posts

Monday, July 16, 2012

re: "The Iraq Fiasco"

Hugh Hewitt at HughHewitt.Com conveyed a sense of frustration.

Money quote(s):

"The outlines of the Iraq fiasco are becoming clear this morning even to the MSM"

I'm still not seeing that, but individual mileage may vary.

"So much good was accomplished for the people of Iraq but at such a terrible price that this sudden retreat is stunning to the people like the veterans who called yesterday and Kagan who, with a few others, helped craft the successful surge strategy which President Bush adopted.

What must Generals Petraeus and Odierno think, and with them the vast majority of the men and women who served in this long war?

Imagine if the U.S. and Great Britain had simply left Berlin three years after the Berlin Wall went up in 1961. How long could the city have withstood Soviet pressure, and what chance would there have been of 1989 ever arriving?"

CAA can think of historical examples where even the myth of domestic political betrayal of military sacrifice has lead to no good result. As Dr. Pournelle often puts it: "Beware the fury of the legions."


10/22


Wednesday, December 28, 2011

re: "Can Obama claim we're leaving Iraq more responsibly than we entered?"

Peter Feaver at The Shadow ("Notes from the Loyal Opposition") drew some parallels.

Money quote(s):


"I haven't seen many attempts to document the ways that the exit is resembling the entry.


A few caveats are worth mentioning up front. The exit is still a work in progress and so there is plenty of time for things to go better (or worse) than might be forecasted now. Any judgment I or anyone else makes on the subject is provisional at best. Moreover, most of the critiques of the entry into Iraq owe more to partisan (or academic) mythology than to actual fact. But they have wide currency -- indeed, in some quarters, they are accepted as self-evident truths -- and so it is worth investigating the extent to which they might apply to the exit."


Mr. Feaver wrote and posted this a month ago (Nov. 7), so the exit has now been completed. And conditions have become, to put it diplomatically, a mite bit shaky, virtually since the moment the withdrawal of combat troops was accomplished.


"At a time when the economy is suffering from some of the worst years since the Great Depression, the echo is unmistakable, and many critics believe that the Iraq decision was dictated by the 2012 election calendar."


Might could be. I did notice that the last of the troops to be pulled out crossed the border into Kuwait before Christmas; it's possible they were even "home before Christmas." Which is a cliché guaranteed to trigger laughter in a military crowd.


"If you find it plausible that Bush let the difficult economic circumstances and the 2002 electoral calendar shape his approach to entering Iraq, shouldn't you find it more plausible that Obama has let his far more daunting economic troubles and the higher stakes 2012 electoral calendar shape his Iraq exit?"


Do electoral politics have an influence on the timing of decisions made by elected politicians? Disbelieving such a thing is beyond CAA's poor powers of naïveté, no matter which party a politician hails from. The better question is to what degree, how much weight such considerations have. Somewhere there's a bright line on this that separates the politicians from the statesmen.


"(T)here is the charge that President Bush put in place the wrong team to handle his Iraq policy and these early failures doomed the effort. Even Secretary Rumsfeld concedes in his memoir that picking Lt.Gen Ricardo Sanchez to head up the military side was a bad choice and Rumsfeld's critique of the civilian head, Ambassador Bremer, is scathing. The team struggled to work together and to understand the situation in Iraq. The crucial early period was squandered, sowing the seeds that reaped the bitter fruit of the sectarian violence of 2004-2006. By all accounts, the Bush administration finally got the right personnel in place when the President tapped General Dave Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker to implement the new surge strategy and their ability to achieve unity of effort contributed considerably to the surge's success."


How long did it take Pres. Lincoln to settle on the Meade/Grant command team?


"Midway through his first term, Obama may have finally assembled a solid team with General Ray Odierno and Ambassador Jim Jeffrey. But he started out with a choice that left many people, including myself, scratching our heads: picking Chris Hill to be the Ambassador. Ambassador Hill certainly had a distinguished career, but he had no direct experience with Iraq and so was starting from square one. Sure enough, within months credible reports were circulating about the poor civil-military coordination on the ground. Perhaps the nadir was the description from one of his former subordinates of Ambassador Hill's alleged wasteful distraction to grow a lush lawn on the embassy compound. Perhaps the complaints were petty, but the more fundamental charge that the Obama team squandered valuable time that undermined future success rings nonetheless." (Bold typeface added for emphasis. - CAA.)


CAA has, in his own career, noted an occasional but remarkable ambassadorial preoccupation with issues of lawncare, landscaping, and décor. It seems to be symptomatic of micromanagers or, to put it more charitably, of the detail oriented.


If it weren't for the fact that sod and such had to be convoyed under armed guard at risk of IED attack all the way into Baghdad, it would be farcical. As it was, it indicates a dangerous disconnection with reality.


11/7

Monday, May 25, 2009

S&S - Odierno sees long insurgency

Stars and Stripes

Odierno sees long insurgency


By Jeff Schogol, Stars and Stripes

Pacific edition, Sunday, May 10, 2009

ARLINGTON, Va. — The insurgency in Iraq will last for years after U.S. troops leave, the top U.S. general in Iraq said Friday.

Read the whole article here.

Wednesday, May 20, 2009

re: "Guest Post: How to win the GWOT - or whatever it's called today"

Mark Pfeifle and Jonathan Thompson guest-posted at Mountain Runner ("A blog by Matt Armstrong on public diplomacy and strategic communication in the 21st century").

Money quote(s):

"America has the finest military and diplomatic leaders in the world. They know how to win on the battlefield and at the negotiating table. Yet, despite those winning ways, there are times when they become victims of circumstances rather than drivers of events. At such times, some may falter with the media and public, and when that happens, they too often lay blame the results on bad press coverage.

Earlier this decade domestic and international audiences wanted to understand what our military leaders and diplomats were doing in Iraq - what was working, what wasn't, and what the future held. We understood that people wanted a constant and understandable dialog then, and we know they now want the same about Afghanistan and Pakistan.

We need people skilled at understanding the motivational factors of societies and communities - domestically and abroad. We have some, such as Generals David Petraeus and Ray Odierno, and Ambassadors Richard Holbrooke and Adam Ereli, who understand the public's increasing need for information. Many are meeting the mark, yet others are still learning.
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"We have fallen short of the mark in successfully communicating to a skeptical audience - domestically and internationally. We need experienced and knowledgeable communications heads, with staffs to support them.

Winning the battles and wars of tomorrow is not just about bombs and bullets. Winning requires expertise at communication and outreach. We won't win if we don't get this right.
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Wednesday, January 21, 2009

S&S - Odierno expands Super Bowl beer policy

Stars and Stripes

Odierno expands Super Bowl beer policy


Stars and Stripes

Mideast edition, Sunday, January 18, 2009


The top U.S. military commander in Iraq has expanded an order that originally would have allowed only Baghdad-based U.S. troops to enjoy a couple of beers while watching the Super Bowl.

Read the whole article here.

Snippet(s):

"Gen. Ray Odierno, commander of Multi-National Force–Iraq, issued an expanded waiver to the policy last week, according to military officials.

The change allows all units in Iraq to serve two beers per servicemember during the big game.
Originally, Multi-National Division–Baghdad had received permission to allow its servicemembers two beers each while watching the National Football League’s championship game, which takes place Sunday, Feb. 1 in Tampa, Fla.


Odierno’s order is the first time all servicemembers in Iraq are allowed to break General Order No. 1, which prohibits the possession and consumption of alcohol, among other things."

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"Previously, units other than MND-Baghdad had declined to follow suit by approving the two beers.

General Order No. 1 has banned U.S. forces from drinking alcohol in Iraq since troops deployed to the Middle East.

There has been at least one previous instance in which units could drink in Iraq, military officials said, but it is not known exactly how many times this has been done in the past.
The beer must be consumed in the dining facility where soldiers can watch the game.
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